rgcn
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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Wed 26 Dec 2018 20:13

Wow, so you release version 7 in May 2018 and then expect people to purchase a full version upgrade to 2019 in December of the same year? You need to do way better than that for your clients.

This is terrible business practice.

rgcn
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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Wed 9 Jan 2019 04:51

Knowing how companies prepare a release well in advance, it would be very surprising if Abvent had no clue they were going to release Version 7 and 2019 within 6 months of each other, fully expecting clients to pay for an upgrade twice in one year!

I find this dishonest and feel quite duped with this company. I won't be upgrading any further with these releases.

I am switching to Cinema 4D.

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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Mon 14 Jan 2019 11:49

rgcn wrote:Wow, so you release version 7 in May 2018 and then expect people to purchase a full version upgrade to 2019 in December of the same year? You need to do way better than that for your clients.

This is terrible business practice.


Totally agree! I purchased 7 in August, after long thinking because it didn't seem to be perfect but I needed a new version. Now it's not necessary to make any updates to 7 if 2019 is the one to develop? In practice I use my old version 3 still much more than 7....

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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Mon 21 Jan 2019 21:51

A good release with slight issues. I like the new features and new materials.

The only issue is it is really slow and produces very noisy images.

Settings 1920px, 150 dpi, 3x3 AA, quality setting and "inside" preset.

Render time was 22h on a 4 core i5 3,1 ghz iMac.

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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Tue 22 Jan 2019 09:32

F4me wrote:A good release with slight issues. I like the new features and new materials.

The only issue is it is really slow and produces very noisy images.

Settings 1920px, 150 dpi, 3x3 AA, quality setting and "inside" preset.

Render time was 22h on a 4 core i5 3,1 ghz iMac.


Hello,

Are you using Neon shaders on complex geometry (high number of polygon) ?
If you are, it might be the reason for the long render time.
If you can use a simpler geometry for the Neon Shaders, it should speed up the rendering.

Best regards,
Camille Sarrut
Abvent R&D

F4me
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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Tue 22 Jan 2019 22:18

Hey, thanks for your Reply.

Neon Shader was only Applied to some small spots in the ceiling, not to any complex geometry. I deativated it and will test if there is a speed increase.

Do you have any advice regarding the noise?

For Example this Image took 17 hours and is very very noisy:
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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Wed 23 Jan 2019 09:04

For the noise, you should turn off the "Enhanced background" as you are rendering an interior scene.
Did you have the neon shader on in this rendering ?
Did you have "Neon glass" shader on the windows ? if you are, that might also increase the noise, turn it off to check.

In the picture what is the semi-circle on the wall at the bottom of the stairs ?
Is it a light or a different shader or something else ?
Camille Sarrut
Abvent R&D

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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Wed 23 Jan 2019 09:09

F4me wrote:For Example this Image took 17 hours and is very very noisy:


This is very long, could you send us the atla file zipped to try to understand why it is taking so long.
could you also send me the Artlantis log, to have your machine configuration, you can find it using the Artlantis menu , "Help/Show log files"
you can send both files using WeTransfer to sarrut@abvent.fr
Camille Sarrut
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F4me
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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Wed 23 Jan 2019 19:06

Hey, thanks for your fast reply.

By the way: Another image from this model took 26,5 hours with the same settings!


As I said, the neon shader was applied BUT only to small 5cm ceiling lights and the were far away from the camera standpoint.

Not to the windows or anything big or relevant. Anyway, I removed it from the scene.


The Semi Circle seems to be a heliodom light coming from the cutout in the roof. The stairs lead to a terrace and the roof window wasn't built in 3D, so it is just a hole.



I will send you the requested files tomorrow.

By the way: I am pretty happy with the results (if there was no noise) and my client loves it. With a little bit of Photoshop, the atmosphere is stunning.

(The light spots in the back were the mentioned ones with the neon shader applied)
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Re: Abvent releases Artlantis 2019!

Thu 24 Jan 2019 09:58

F4me wrote:
By the way: I am pretty happy with the results (if there was no noise) and my client loves it. With a little bit of Photoshop, the atmosphere is stunning.

(The light spots in the back were the mentioned ones with the neon shader applied)


That's good to hear !
I will make some test with your file to try to understand why it is taking so long.
be sure to send me an archive (atla), to be sure I have the same media you are using.
Camille Sarrut
Abvent R&D

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